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Jenny Pizer in the Rector’s Forum on Sunday, May 22, 2016:

“One vision is that religious liberty should come first and everything else should give way. To others, Church and State are supposed to be separate and it’s essential that they be separate for the good of both… These are two competing visions. Is there one that’s right and another that’s wrong? Well, actually, no — they have to live together. And they do live together if we do our work well.”

See Jenny’s PowerPoint slides here: http://www.allsaints-pas.org/modules/toc/uploads/files/aid1993_2016_05_22_all_saints_church_pasadena_jennifer_pizer_42556622_d2e9_fad1_u1.pdf